tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post1239679485435412495..comments2024-03-28T14:35:30.147-04:00Comments on Tank Archives: Suggestion for StalinPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-38492082709223047472020-01-06T16:48:57.153-05:002020-01-06T16:48:57.153-05:00But thats the whole point of the gun. Why increase...But thats the whole point of the gun. Why increase the the caliber to 23mm instead of the default 20mm and increase the muzzle velocity to a whooping 905m/s, if you are not making use of the increased armor penetration. The only plane that used the 23mm cannon in large numbers were the IL-2 attack planes which mostly used them against ground targets, in which case 20mm cannons would have done the same to light armored targets.<br /><br />From 1944 onwards the Soviets built 23mm aircraft cannons with greatly reduced muzzle velocity, since the increased velocity was not worth the slightly increased armor penetration, even though the poor penetreation is only related to the absence of a proper AP round.<br /><br />I guess you could argue that at that point there was no need for a good AP round since the PTAB bombs were incredible effective against both tanks and soft targets. KillaKiwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04760488116137443661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-76139122630393191492020-01-03T06:09:32.827-05:002020-01-03T06:09:32.827-05:00There's not that much use for good AP performa...There's not that much use for good AP performance on an aircraft gun. Having excellent damage is a lot more important since there's a much higher chance you'll be shooting at other aircraft and "soft" ground targets which have practically no armor to begin with.TiPihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520791845033429399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-60612046466964575332019-12-28T14:47:19.382-05:002019-12-28T14:47:19.382-05:00What I don't understand why they gave the 23mm...What I don't understand why they gave the 23mm cannon such poor armor piercing performance. It's not much better than a 12.7mm AP round.<br />For some reason the AP shell only has 15mm 68g steel penetrator while the complete shell weighs almost 200g.<br /><br />Using that shell the gun has worse AP performance than a 14.5mm MG firing plain AP rounds.<br /><br />They could have easily improved the armor piercing capabilities, if the just designed a proper AP shell instead of that AP-I with mediocre penetration abilities.KillaKiwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04760488116137443661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-84990019364610319692019-12-27T17:35:05.062-05:002019-12-27T17:35:05.062-05:00The gun was TKB-198, it was never put into product...The gun was TKB-198, it was never put into production.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-5251954808880869782019-12-27T07:57:01.972-05:002019-12-27T07:57:01.972-05:00Could you write some context on the answer, I'...Could you write some context on the answer, I'd like to know the gun they are talking about, and if it went into production.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09396921394652351308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-56703775279835714332019-12-25T16:25:24.155-05:002019-12-25T16:25:24.155-05:00The 7.92 mm armour piercing cartridge would be pro...The 7.92 mm armour piercing cartridge would be produced domestically, except there were certain issue with the powder giving a much higher pressure than the German variant. Pursuing domestic 14.5 mm rifles proved to be a superior approach.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-45832781799822975982019-12-25T15:24:11.197-05:002019-12-25T15:24:11.197-05:00Was a 7.92mm anti-tank cartridge much use by this ...Was a 7.92mm anti-tank cartridge much use by this stage?<br />Were they anticipating using captured German ammunition?Matrick https://www.blogger.com/profile/10715184819958746850noreply@blogger.com