tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post3936303547545445712..comments2024-03-28T14:35:30.147-04:00Comments on Tank Archives: King Tiger Battlefield Penetration TrialsPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-78610017905840238942021-03-20T11:38:20.153-04:002021-03-20T11:38:20.153-04:00War Thunder (not a rock-solid source for either ar...War Thunder (not a rock-solid source for either armor or gun values data now, alas) has the production turret with 200 mm of mantlet armor and 185 of turret armor, which roughly agrees with this report. <br /><br />Given that, and the gun stats in War THunder for both the BS-3, the D-25, and the M-20, none of this in the report could have possibly happened. By contrast I see that War Thunder has the Kwk43 penetrating fully 10 % more armor thickness, normalized for the hardness difference, than it did when it was tested at Aberdeen by the US military. This trend will no doubt continue, until the Germans win WWII in the game. /snarkStewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-29521092283183044792021-03-19T20:27:13.250-04:002021-03-19T20:27:13.250-04:00Were these the pre-production turrets? I thought t...Were these the pre-production turrets? I thought the later type had roughly 200mm of frontal turret thickness.Qwopstixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03037715059356889504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-20142898606609122152021-03-19T12:11:50.370-04:002021-03-19T12:11:50.370-04:00#5 states specifically the 'upper front plate&...#5 states specifically the 'upper front plate" of the King Tiger, while #4 is consistent with testing done with the King Tiger tanks captured at Sandomierz on the front turret resistance.Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-13317182372908861092021-03-18T14:52:20.877-04:002021-03-18T14:52:20.877-04:00#5 contradicts #4, unless #4 is the turret.#5 contradicts #4, unless #4 is the turret.Mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256982406940327658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-6361559423072384382021-03-18T11:42:20.683-04:002021-03-18T11:42:20.683-04:00No info on that, sadly.No info on that, sadly.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-11409269390299964562021-03-18T11:39:38.671-04:002021-03-18T11:39:38.671-04:00Firing conditions aren't given in the document...Firing conditions aren't given in the document, sadly, hit rate seems to be much lower than I'd expect across the board. Inexperienced gunners, maybe?<br /><br />The AP shell was indeed rare, but I've seen surprisingly few tests against enemy heavy tanks with HE.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-53388551664858051882021-03-17T15:53:53.634-04:002021-03-17T15:53:53.634-04:00Oh, and BTW--any ideas which German heavy tank bat...Oh, and BTW--any ideas which German heavy tank battalion(s) "volunteered" these samples?Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-14834861610138789272021-03-17T15:27:20.324-04:002021-03-17T15:27:20.324-04:00Only one hit out of 10 with the 152 mm gun?
I...Only one hit out of 10 with the 152 mm gun? <br /><br />I'm also surprised that a (rarer) AP round was used when these thought out of the 20 rounds per SU/ISU-152, only one was usually AP and all the rest HE. So HE rounds would be the most likely thing available.Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-31802873747576506992021-03-17T13:35:18.045-04:002021-03-17T13:35:18.045-04:00Very strange how the guns hit the Tiger IIs turret...Very strange how the guns hit the Tiger IIs turret and ended up penetrating the 80mm sides which are steeply angled towards the front.<br />The Tiger I was also apperently also hit from the side. Makes you wonder at which angles the tanks were shot from.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18092625442069414301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-76527366232303030312021-03-17T12:04:17.785-04:002021-03-17T12:04:17.785-04:00“ a second shot to the same place results in a pen...“ a second shot to the same place results in a penetration.”<br /><br />Good luck with that!Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748293799490877339noreply@blogger.com