tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post2787245205598115361..comments2024-03-28T14:35:30.147-04:00Comments on Tank Archives: Tiger DuelPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-8640662955185549382016-10-19T01:30:29.548-04:002016-10-19T01:30:29.548-04:00Then You argue based partly upon the fact that You...Then You argue based partly upon the fact that You don´t know.critical masshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366274198749901618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-19250221316200278972016-10-18T11:36:22.120-04:002016-10-18T11:36:22.120-04:00If you find any other claims, you're welcome t...If you find any other claims, you're welcome to point them out. I didn't. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-22307299255708955612016-10-18T10:29:16.473-04:002016-10-18T10:29:16.473-04:00Due to the extreme overclaim caused by a soviet TI...Due to the extreme overclaim caused by a soviet TIGER mania, the chances that a soviet TIGER kill claim in 1943 can be confirmedly attributed to a TIGER loss are actually less than 1 to 50.<br />From this, it´s justified to be sceptical.<br /><br />You´d need to study all claimants for the day in question, rather than preselecting one and ascribing the event as a match.<br />Plus, not all damaged TIGER´s were caused by enemy action. Frequently, TIGERs reported mechanical issues which rendered them temporarely unservicable.<br /><br /><br />critical masshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366274198749901618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-77632382275974161482016-10-11T11:29:51.929-04:002016-10-11T11:29:51.929-04:00Soviets say Tigers were destroyed, Germans say Tig...Soviets say Tigers were destroyed, Germans say Tigers were destroyed, but you come to the conclusion that no Tigers were destroyed?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-83031371099231903822016-10-11T10:18:05.760-04:002016-10-11T10:18:05.760-04:00or more likely, no TIGER was hit at all. Soviets f...or more likely, no TIGER was hit at all. Soviets frequently misidentified Pz4h for TIGERs. At Kursks, the soviets made some extravagant claim in that they "have had destroyed over 3000 german tanks, and among them no less than 700 TIGERs".<br />Actual TIGER losses were 12 during operation Citadel. So the russians overclaimed almost 60 times for every real loss when dealing with TIGER in July 1943. Oct.1943 isn´t far from July...critical masshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366274198749901618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-77155617264218490512015-07-15T17:02:53.612-04:002015-07-15T17:02:53.612-04:00I doubt it was an "honest" penetration. ...I doubt it was an "honest" penetration. There are other instances of Tigers knocked out frontally by ZiS-3 fire, likely from spalling and transmission damage. Tiger or not, no crew likes to stick around in a disabled tank in the middle of an AT gun belt.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-62946881647165536082015-07-15T10:04:22.883-04:002015-07-15T10:04:22.883-04:00Also very questionable thing is how Tiger was dest...Also very questionable thing is how Tiger was destroyed. If its front hull made towards to the Sergeant Nugayev's gun its hard to believe it should be destroyed by penetration by standart shell even from the 100m. Since the tank fired at him there wasnt time to aim on the weakspot, the tank was probably penetrated with APCR, demaged by rapid fire to the weakspots or penetrated to the hull side. Crabteeth RMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715071498952492184noreply@blogger.com