tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post9098492000741495106..comments2024-03-28T14:35:30.147-04:00Comments on Tank Archives: German Tank Tactics, 1945Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-6592378654039227562023-06-03T09:22:06.991-04:002023-06-03T09:22:06.991-04:00Agreed.
A thought occurred to me---thinking of ...Agreed. <br /><br />A thought occurred to me---thinking of the Gumbinnen operation, where the 505 PzAbt equipped with King Tigers supported the 5th Panzer division in that battle east of there in October 1944, that perhaps some of the King Tigers were disabled (the 505th listed 7 as irrecoverable losses) or broke down in that operation and were sent to repair depots in the rear. And, (as was not infrequently the case) these were never repaired or put back into service.<br /><br />When the Soviets then advanced in January 1945, these might have been blown up or abandoned in the face of the Soviet advance, and the Soviets might have wrongly thought they had been fighting them. Just offering a possible explanation. Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-83280770147201408252023-05-31T10:41:58.768-04:002023-05-31T10:41:58.768-04:00Here is a specific direction for research, examini...Here is a specific direction for research, examining the battle sites of the 46th Independent Guards Tank Breakthrough Regiment and cross-referencing the equipment of German units that fought in the same area.<br />I am unable to carry out further research at the moment, my data is from Firebrigades Panzer Divisions 1943-1945.Wintergewitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925017956718858791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-22363164000177294562023-05-31T10:31:38.020-04:002023-05-31T10:31:38.020-04:00See Panzer DB's comment. Surprisingly there mi...See Panzer DB's comment. Surprisingly there might have been some actual Ferdinands left.<br /><br />The Soviets also called Panthers "Heavy Tanks", so that matches. As for "Tigers", I can't explain that, but re-iterate at this point the Soviets are taking the grounds and can examine the wrecks to confirm kills, so their claims should carry more weight than claims that lack this kind of confirmation.Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-54263552907826634832023-05-31T09:45:04.879-04:002023-05-31T09:45:04.879-04:00The 4th Armoured Division, which took part in the ...The 4th Armoured Division, which took part in the defence of Danzig in the Eastern Pomeranian campaign, for example, was equipped with Pz. IV, Pz. V, StuG III, StuG IV and Jg. Pz. V. The 7th Armoured Division, which also took part in the battle, was equipped with Pz. IV, Pz. V and StuG IV.<br />The 7th Armoured Division, which also fought in the defense of Danzig, was equipped with Pz. IV, Pz. V, StuG III.<br />Therefore, the "heavy tanks and heavy SPGs" mentioned here are most likely Pz. IV and StuG III.Wintergewitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925017956718858791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-77601146288838549692023-05-28T06:28:54.596-04:002023-05-28T06:28:54.596-04:00Actually, Heeres schwere Panzerjäger-Kompanie 614 ...Actually, Heeres schwere Panzerjäger-Kompanie 614 (former 2/653) was relocated to the Kielce area on late Decembrer, 1944. In January 1945, it took heavy fighting East and South of Kielce and lost most of its Elefants (6 from 10). None were seen or fought near Danzig. Unit then retreated westward. So numbers seems good, but dates and places might be not.Panzer DBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08081794584220714208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-41477822842090150672023-05-27T10:58:51.383-04:002023-05-27T10:58:51.383-04:00Remember, the Soviets are winning the battles now,...Remember, the Soviets are winning the battles now, and occupying the ground, and looking at the German wrecks to get a good look at what they were fighting. While "Ferdinand" had come to meant any kind of non-turreted casemate SPG, King Tigers were still very real and by 1945 "Tiger" most likely meant "King Tiger".<br /><br />In short, don't dismiss their reports out-of-hand. While everyone makes errors in their reports, Soviet reports usually far more reliable than German ones.Stewart Millenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261690405884935161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-28524247945377339922023-05-26T16:32:04.468-04:002023-05-26T16:32:04.468-04:00I imagine they are typical soviets - sounds more b...I imagine they are typical soviets - sounds more better in report, if they fight Tigers and Ferdinands, than Pz IV and StuGs III.Miroslav Hylšhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02703975861327727675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-74341703985729625692023-05-26T14:32:06.905-04:002023-05-26T14:32:06.905-04:00I imagine they are thinkling of JagpanthersI imagine they are thinkling of JagpanthersMartin Rapierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16788664847205341619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-84095622685861464612023-05-26T11:37:39.287-04:002023-05-26T11:37:39.287-04:00LOL, yes, 20.2.1945 and Ferdinands everywhere :DLOL, yes, 20.2.1945 and Ferdinands everywhere :DMiroslav Hylšhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02703975861327727675noreply@blogger.com