tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post915400209080911919..comments2024-03-28T14:35:30.147-04:00Comments on Tank Archives: Soviet 45 mm AT GunsPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-66649668368029007742020-04-04T03:23:25.084-04:002020-04-04T03:23:25.084-04:00Something that needs to be said about these diagra...Something that needs to be said about these diagrams:<br /><br />"The results obtained are in most cases insufficient to build a complete tactical schematic of every unique armour layout present on the enemy tanks. But, the fact that the armour of german tanks is similar in ballistic resistance to domestic armour of the same type, gives the right to use additional data from the ballistic trials of domestic armour, a great body of which was collected during the many years of manufacturing and testing. This allows to improve our estimates of the level of protection of enemy tanks.<br /><br />For computing [of the tactical diagrams] the ballistic resistance of the german RHA was taken as equal to that of the domestic high hardness armour for thicknesses up to and including 40mm and to domestic medium hardness armour for 50mm plates.<br /><br />Resistance of the layered(shielded) armour was takes as equivalent to that of a single plate of the same thickness."<br /><br />Original text: https://i.imgur.com/WnCIqpU.jpgPeasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00548023869907629898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-37811150618371348822016-10-06T17:25:37.385-04:002016-10-06T17:25:37.385-04:00I'm not aware of a 45 mm mountain gun. There a...I'm not aware of a 45 mm mountain gun. There are mentions of 45 mm guns in the records of the 1073rd regiment, but they make no suggestion that these guns are in some way special.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-52672118403530069302016-10-06T11:35:28.664-04:002016-10-06T11:35:28.664-04:00Is there any information and/or pictures available...Is there any information and/or pictures available of the 45mm M1932 Mountain gun, developed in the Central Asian Military District? In a report from Western Front's Operations Department on the loss of Volokolamsk dated 30 October, 1941, the strength of the regiments of 316th Rifle Division are listed:<br />1077th Rifle Regiment - 2000 men, 2 120mm mortars, 4 76mm mountain guns, 4 82mm mortars, 6 45mm mountain guns<br />1075th Rifle Regiment - 700 men, 1 120mm mortar, 2 45mm mountain guns, 2 82mm mortars<br />1073rd Rifle Regiment - 800 men, 1 120mm mortar, 2 76mm guns, 4 45mm mountain guns<br /><br />The exact model of the 45mm guns is not mentioned, but presumably they are the M1932 mountain AT guns, I believe designed for light weight and capable of breaking down for carriage by pack horse. The 316th RD was formed as an "extra" division - when the CAMD was ordered to raise six rifle divisions, the Central Committee of the Kazakh SSR decided to raise an additional division. This meant it was made up of older reservists, and its equipment was drawn from what was available in the district. Regular M1937 AT guns were in tight supply in 1941. The July shtat for a rifle division had a 6-gun AT battery with each regiment, but no divisional AT battalion. The division was not a mountain division, but was equipped with some mountain guns apparently, presumably because there was nothing better available. If you have any information (I'm writing a book about the defense of Moscow in October) I would appreciate it. I can be reached at radey.zhukov.jack@gmail.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10199494153747707609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-18578790825404626962014-07-23T18:18:49.333-04:002014-07-23T18:18:49.333-04:00Conclusions: "The 45 mm AP shell, when fired ...Conclusions: "The 45 mm AP shell, when fired from a model 1934 AT gun, penetrates the 50 mm thick front armour at 50 meters. Side armour is penetrated at 400 meters. Un-screened sides of the engine compartment, rear, and turret, can be penetrated at any effective combat distance."<br /><br />NII-48's calculations are a bit pessimistic: "The front parts of the tank cannot be penetrated by 45 mm shells." The distance given for the screened sides is 310 meters, side of the turret platform is penetrable from 1070 meters, rear of the hull from 940 meters. The calculations agree: non-screened portions of the tank can be penetrated at any distance and angle.<br />Thats not a very good perfonmance since it has to be under 100 meters to pierce the front of the panzer 4 of 50 mm, this gun woul be even more inefective against the upgraged panzer 4 with 80 mm armour and dont fool yourself the germans soon changed the panzer 3 with 30+30 mm with the panzer 3 armoured with a single piece of 50 mm armour which made it invulnerable at ranges of 100 meters, since the standar combat range is of 500 meters this gun doesnt look impresive, if you want to kill a german tank use a 76 mm zis 3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-86485486954493558182013-12-10T11:37:00.273-05:002013-12-10T11:37:00.273-05:00Thanks, fixed it.Thanks, fixed it.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-61788445028991088952013-12-09T16:24:13.697-05:002013-12-09T16:24:13.697-05:00you have listed 45mm as on the right in the first ...you have listed 45mm as on the right in the first diagram but the image shows it to be on the left. other than that, this is great! thanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03692337642618766976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-36369374215853007612013-06-24T15:32:14.248-04:002013-06-24T15:32:14.248-04:00Haha, whoops. Fixed.Haha, whoops. Fixed.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622237223229485503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5030145265861917845.post-89334027932129263102013-06-24T12:09:44.270-04:002013-06-24T12:09:44.270-04:00"The next victim of the 45 mm gun is the StuG..."The next victim of the 45 mm gun is the StuG. The gun is now a model 1942.<br /><br />Two shots at the front, from 50 meters and 100 meters. Both fail to penetrate, making 20 meter dents."<br /><br />Correction 20 millimeter dents otherwise the stug would have been turned inside out.<br />Hilarious mental image thoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com